This is our Deluxe Kit. It comes with the knob and block for the caliber, calibers, or specific guns, the marked dippers for them, and one funnel. It also comes with all of the things you need to make paper cartridges except for bullets and powder. This includes five packages of Elements rice paper rolling papers, a 5/8ths paper circle cutter, a large size All Purpose glue stick (or three small ones depending on availability), one 2oz can of lube, and 4 lube refills. Also our loading block and a project box.
The lube is enough for approximately 400 paper cartridges if the lube is kept hot throughout. If you heat the lube, take it off the heat, and dip until you can no longer dip, it will not last anywhere near as long. The five packages of paper are enough for about 500 rounds of the .36 and .44 if you cut two strips for the body and use the end for two circles (see instructions page). For the larger cartridges, the number is about a half to two thirds, depending on well you combine your cuts.
Included in this kit is also our loading block for the caliber or calibers. It makes it so you can make 20 papers and fill the powder at the same time. This is particularly valuable if you are loading roundballs because with those, the glue will get on your fingers and make subsequent papers and powder significantly more difficult. It makes things go quickly for conicals as well and is a very useful addition to your paper cartridge arsenal.
We also include a Berry's 20 cal ammo can as a project box. They are Made in the USA by Americans.
All of our kits are engineered to fill the chamber so that the top of a conical bullet reaches the very top of the chamber when compressed with the loading lever. Small variances in height can be obtained by how much you fill or overfill the dipper.
For lower power target loads, you fill the powder first, for how much you want to use, then top it off with Cream of Wheat to about an 8th of an inch below the rim of the paper.
For roundballs, if you want them topped right up, you should fill the dipper to overflowing, with a little on the handle.
Experiment with your gun so you don't run into a situation where the bullet or ball will not compress enough to clear the cylinder. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
If you do get stuck, which most of us have, take your cylinder out and hacksaw the top off of the bullet.
None of our kits come with gunpowder, bullets, caps, or of course the guns in the pictures. Our measurements are based on our experience, and you use them at your own risk.
This Old Army kit was engineered for the Ruger Old Army cap & ball pistol. It is slightly different than a standard .44, because the cylinders are about .005 inches wider, allowing slightly more powder.
The tallest, heaviest bullet available that works with this gun is the Walker bullet from Eras Gone Bullet Molds. If you fill the dipper so that no powder overlaps the edges, that bullet will be topped up to the top of the cylinder.
The Johnson & Dow shaves in the ROA, but we have not tested it for accuracy to see if it centers properly. There are several other bullets from Lee that work in the ROA, and we will test them at some point. You will have to experiment with your bullet in your gun to find the correct powder measurement.
This is a nice kit, and works well. Definitely worth the money.
2/17/2023 was the first time I pulled out the cartridge kit and started rolling paper shells. I will be charging the paper shells next weekend, but damn it only took an hour to roll 50 shells. I would suggest everyone buy a kit and make your life easier. Great product… well what are you waiting for. Hit the button click buy. I will post a video on YouTube..
I am happy with this product. It works as advertised and it's pretty fun Rollin paper cartridges. The only reason I give 4* instead of 5* is that I ordered the old army set and wound up with a set that says dragoon on it. But It fits and shoots just fine.
I love this little tool. It's actually my second. I have a new army 44 also. My only problem is the paper not always burning up. I am going to start nitrating the paper first. Other than that, Great product.
An absolutely wonderful product at a great value, I plan to buy all remaining sets ASAP. For serious BP enthusiast this is a must have, an essential for the workbench.